Saturday, November 15, 2025

Welcome to the Show!


Welcome to The Hot Hero Sandwich Project, the online home of a research project documenting the 1979-1980 Emmy Award-winning NBC Saturday morning children’s educational entertainment television series, Hot Hero Sandwich.

Use the tabs on the left to navigate this extensive archive of articles, interviews, and video, or jump right into some of our most popular posts on the right. Start with the Introduction and learn about the series in A Second Serving! and the FAQ tabs on left. The latest updates are noted on the the Project Posts list on the right.

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COMING UP! An article on Hot Hero Sandwich I wrote for RetroFan magazine #43 is slated for the Jan.-Feb. 2026 issue and scheduled for sale Feb. 11, 2026. We made the cover with Marcia! Marcia! Marcia!


— G. Jack Urso, Editor, The Hot Hero Sandwich Project


                          

                                                

Hot Hero Sandwich Project Archives: Newhouse News Service Article, Fall 1979

by G. Jack Urso

Article about Hot Hero Sandwich by Jerry Krupnick, Newhouse News Service, Fall 1979

This article by Jerry Krupnick, long-time television reporter and critic for the Star-Ledger (New Jersey), previewing the Hot Hero Sandwich is notable for providing an extended interview with series’ creators and producer Bruce and Carole Hart. It’s unclear whether this was a “live” interview or whether the Q & A was pulled from pre-packaged PR materials, but I’ve not come across similar responses in other news articles, so it may be an original interview between Krupnick and the Harts.

The date of the article is unknown, but since it is referencing the original Oct. 20, 1979, start date for the show, I’m guessing this article was published in late August or September, before the start date for Hot Hero Sandwich was moved up to Nov. 10, 1979. As noted in the article, the show was aimed for “preteens,” but as the series evolved, the music acts and innovative animation drew teens. This dichotomy led to some uneven continuity in the early episodes with sketches written for preteens and tweens, but also with content appreciated by older teens.

The full text of the article is provided below.  

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“HOT HERO SANDWICH” For Kids With ‘Growing Pains’

BY JERRY KRUPNICK Newhouse News Service

NEW YORK-Bruce and Carole Hart seem to have a special wire into the minds and mores of today’s youngsters. They have based their considerable careers on interpreting these thoughts in music and comedy, on giving the kids some knowledge, some hope and some advice without catering or condescension.

The Harts began in television as the original staff writers for “Sesame Street.” They joined Marlo Thomas on her Emmy-winning special “Free to Be You and Me.” They wrote, produced and directed an outstanding drama of young love called “Sooner or Later,” which was one of NBC’s highlights last season.

Now, starting in October, Bruce and Carole are putting together a unique hour-long series aimed at the unique mix of audience that watches television at noon on Saturdays.

“Hot Hero Sandwich,” which NBC will air starting Oct. 20, is primarily intended for the preteens who are “going through all kinds of changes-physical and mental-who are discovering sex and independence and are undergoing what we used to call ‘growing pains,’” Carole said.

Interviews with ‘Heroes’

Yet the Harts believe their series will also appeal to youngsters from the age of 6 on up, “who have been watching the set all morning anyhow, who may not under-stand everything that’s happening but will be entertained by the music and the fun and the animation and may come away with more than we thought possible,” she said.

At the same time, the “Hot Hero Sandwich” creators are hopeful that adults also will find their show, perhaps watch it with their kids and get a new perspective on how their youngsters feel, what they react to, what bugs them, what turns them on.

The gimmick, if we can call it that, to the series is the use of interviews with “heroes,” celebrities from all walks of life who have special appeal to the adolescents.

So far, 30 of these interviews have been taped, ranging from Olivia Newton-John to Kurt Vonnegut, from Erik Estrada to Bruce Jenner, from Donna Pescow to Leonard Nimoy.

“The people we’ve talked to are those whom youngsters most admire. But we’ve not talked to them about their latest movie, latest book, latest scientific breakthrough,” Carole said. “Instead, our conversations have been exclusively limited to their own teen-age years, the problems they faced in school, at home, with their peers.

“We were told at the start that these were busy people and we would be fortunate to get 20 minutes each from them. Some of our conversations, however, ran up to two or three hours. It was amazing how these celebrities got into their past, into their hangups, into their shyness, into their first encounters with the opposite sex,” she said.

Terrified of Girls

Her husband continued, “Bruce Jenner, for instance, was terrified of girls when he was a teen-ager. Finally he began going with one young lady, but never could get up his nerve for that first kiss.

“At last, on one date, Bruce braced himself, closed his eyes and gave the girl a fleeting goodnight peck on the cheek. “Then,” he told us, ‘I opened the car door and I took off as fast as I could. That was the beginning of my track career.

Four of the interview segments will be used on each hour of “Hot Hero Sandwich,” interspersed with comedy skits by a resident company of youngsters and musical numbers by guest bands and singers.

Change will be the key word for the weekly themes. “Suddenly,” Carole said, “the opposite sex has a new meaning and appearance in a youngster’s life, which he or she must figure out how to relate to. That’s always anxiety making.

“Also, adolescents find they will have to renegotiate contracts with the adults in their life,” she said. “They suddenly come to a time when they want to be independent, they want to be strong, they want to be on their own. But, at the same time, they still need adult support and it’s just not so cool to admit it, it brings about conflict, insecurity, rebellion.”

‘Quietly Going Crazy’

To which Bruce added, “Primarily, young people reach the stage where they feel like they’re going crazy, very quietly and in an isolated way, and no one can seem to reassure them that’s not the case.

“We’ve set out to design a show, an entertainment, which would attract these young people and which would assure them that the insanity they think they’re feeling is not craziness. It is normal. This is just the way things are. And, just as important, we want to show them they are not alone in their feelings, that their peers and their parents before them and their own future youngsters all go through these changes.”

That’s a lot to chew on. It’s a large order for television and requires a special expertise, a special touch. Given the track record of Bruce and Carole Hart, it would seem that they are capable of pulling it off. We’ll have to wait until October to find out.

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Hot Hero Sandwich Project Archives: 16 Magazine — Make Yourself A Hot Hero Sandwich!

by G. Jack Urso

16 Magazine article, Nov. 1979. Full text transcription below.

In promoting the show, NBC had Hot Hero Sandwich noted in various magazine and newspaper publications (see Archives). With a cast of attractive young actors plus some of the hottest rock acts of the era, I thought it unusual I had not found a teen magazine covering the show — until now, that is! Presented here is an article from 16 magazine, November 1979 (see above and transcription below).

Since the demographic is a female teen audience, the article has an exuberant tone and highlights who is “cute and adorable,” as well as some physical characteristics as height and weight, where available. Yet, despite that, the 16 editorial staff showed better mastery of grammar and style with only two minor typos in the text (identified by the editorial note [sic], compared to the 38 errors that slipped by NBC in the Hot Hero Sandwich Archives: Full Page Ad for Series Premier.

Every article, no matter how innocuous, reveals a little more about the actors. We learn Jarett Smithwrick appeared in the 1979 classic cult film The Warriors (likely as an uncredited extra since he does not appear in the credits) and Michael Longfield (identified by his stage name L. Michael Craig) enjoyed unicycling, which makes sense given that Longfield later owned his own bicycle shop. Oddly, they don’t mention Paul O’Keefe’s role in The Patty Duke Show and Vicky Dawson’s then-current role on Another World.

The article also referenced the show’s original planned premiere date of Oct. 20, 1979, as though the series had actually already debuted. In fact, the start date was pushed forward to Nov. 20, 1979, meaning this article was written before the date change which would have taken place in the very early Fall. That it was not updated suggests the date change was last minute and after the issue went to press.

In all, this was an excellent placement for the series. Though more narrowly focused on teen girls, I think it likely there was spill-over to teen males as a secondary effect.

The full text is provided below.

Note: Spelling, boldfaced text, and italics are as they originally appeared. The editorial note [sic] indicates an error in the original source text.

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16 Magazine, Nov. 1979: Make Yourself A Hot Hero Sandwich!

It's The Newest Teen Show Around-And All Your Favorites Are (Or Will Be!) On It!

Whatcha doin’ this Sunday around noon time? 16’s got a super-great suggestion — how ’bout turning to NBC and gettin’ yourself a tasty Hot Hero Sandwich? That’s the name of the brand-new, for-teens-only TV variety show. It’s [sic] unusual concept is to feature the biggest stars of today — nothin’ so unusual about that! — except that these stars talk candidly about the problems they had growing up. Some of them may be the very same problems youre facing! And not only is Hot Hero Sandwich flavored with your favorites, it also features a brand-new group of talented teens who call themselves The Repertory Company. Have a look-see!

ERIK ESTRADA was one of the very first guests on Hot Hero Sandwich — the show premiered Oct 20 —and as always, the smooth-talking Erik was very open. Erik reminisced about his childhood in New York City and revealed his nickname "The Phantom." He also spoke about the pain of growing up without a father. Erik's parents were divorced when he was very young and he was brought up mainly by his mom and grandfather. You'll get to see a whole ‘nother side of rough-tough Erik!

DONNA PESCOW, TV's Angie, was another star happy to sit down and share the trials and tribulations of growing up with you. She's originally from Brooklyn, New York, and Donna's parents, too were separated when she was very young. She spent many of her growing-up years alone with her mom and older sister. Donna tells how she handled it — lots of people can learn something from her optimistic attitude!

Lovely Livvy — OLIVIA NEWTON JOHN — was only too happy to share her thoughts with psychologist Dr. Thomas Cottle (the show's very much unofficial host), especially since she knew you'd be watching. Olivia talked about the fact that she dropped out of school that was especially difficult for her family to handle since her grandfather was no less than a Nobel Prize winning scientist! Olivia also talked about how she felt when her parents first told her they were getting divorced.

Olympic star BRUCE JENNER had had plenty of things to discuss with Dr. Cottle — he confided that he has a learning disability called “dyslexia” and he found learning to read very difficult! He also revealed his high school nickname — Jenner-ation"!

Among the performing guest stars, SISTER SLEDGE treated Hot Hero viewers to a sample of their big hit, "We Are Family-what a great show they put on!

Meet The Repertory Company!

In each n every segment of Hot Hero Sandwich, you'll get to see hear the fabulous Repertory Company — seven super teens who'll delight you with their antics! Here they are one-by-one.

MATT MCCOY is the six-foot tall, blue-eyed baritone of the group hes from New York City and is into acting, dancing and playing guitar.

VICKY DAWSON has strawberry-blond hair and lots of freckles she's 18 years old. Vicky’s been in commercials and many ABC Afterschool specials like It Must Be Love Cause I Feel So Dumb (she had the lead role!).

MICHAEL CRAIG is a cute 58” baritone — he’s 19 years old and hails from Seattle, Washington, where he got his start in stage plays. Mike plays guitar and also likes sailing, surfing and unicycling!

JARRETT [sic] SMITHWRICK is only 56” tall, but talent abounds in every inch! He's from Brooklyn, New York and was in the movie, The Warriors!

DENNY DILLON is actually a “she” — a blond and adorable one, too! Denny's been in lots of stage plays and she had the small role of “Doreen” in Saturday Night Fever!

NAN-LYNN NELSON is a 56” tall, 105 lb. newcomer who also calls New York City home — she’s into acting, dancing and naturally, singing!

PAUL O'KEEFE is a blond-haired, blue-eyed charmer whose television experience includes being on the soap opera, As The World Turns. Hes also worked as a “gunfighter” and stuntman in amusement parks!

Want to know more about Repertory Company? You can write to any or all of them at Hot Hero Sandwich, NBC-TV, 30 Rockefeller Center, New York, N.Y., 10019. Be sure n tell em 16 sent ya!


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Hot Hero Sandwich Project Archives: Full Page Ad for Series Premier

by G. Jack Urso
 

This full page, full-color promotion for the premier of Hot Hero Sandwich was a big ad buy for the show. At first glance, it appears to be a well-designed, attractive, eye-catching layout — at first glance that is. A closer look, however, shows no less than 38 spelling errors as indicated in the transcription below by the editorial note [sic], which indicates a word that is reprinted exactly as it originally appeared.

Some of the errors seem to be due to the font choice, a sans serif font with few sharp edges to better define the boundaries of the letters, but many seem to be just standard spelling errors. As someone who worked in public relations, I know this copy probably had a half-dozen eyes on it before it went to print, so how so many errors ended up in this final draft is a mystery, but I imagine someone’s boss had some pretty sharp words about it. The full text is provided below.

Note: Spelling and Capitalization are as they originally appeared. The editorial note [sic] indicates an error in the original source text.

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Weve bitten into a complicated subject. Growing up.

HOT HERO SANDWICH
Announcing a new weekly tv series. Its the only retevison [sic] program for young people which entertains, while it encourages them to think. And hos celebnties [sic] revealing extremely personal feelings, ideas, values, Where Erik Esnado [sic] admiis [sic] he never really liked school. Olivia Newton-John describes the noumo [sic] of her porents [sic] divorce. Donna Pescow confesses she hit her mother during a crisis. Bruce Jenner recoils [sic] the terror of his fits [sic] kiss.

Where Hal Linden blurts our [sic] his childhood nidknome [sic], “Lippy.” McLean Stevenson giggles over folks caling [sic] him Fickle [sic]. And Sister Sledge his [sic] home the segments theme with their hit. “We Are Fomily [sic].”

All on the fins [sic] show.

And, in the weelts [sic] to come, youll see guesis [sic] Ron Howard, Morio Thomos [sic], Michoel Leained [sic], Christopher Reeve, Barbara Walrers [sic], Gloria Steinem, Beverly Sills, Loretto [sic] Lynn, Leonard Nimoy, Henry Fondo [sic]. Cheryl Tiegs.

Plus Judy Blume, Coretto [sic] King, Pom [sic] Dawber Jimmy Mchichol [sic]. Richard Pryor and Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

And our resident cating [sic] company in a series of comedy shetches [sic], specol [sic] film pieces and animation. Intenpersed [sic] with music by Eddie Money, Linle [sic] River Bond [sic]. Joe Jackson, Stephen Stills, the Persuasions, KISS. ond [sic] our own “Hot Hero” bond [sic].

Hot Hero Sandwich. For kich [sic] to ralte [sic] stock of who they ore [sic]. What they belleve [sic]. Where theyre [sic] going. Weve planned a lor [sic] of fun. And we deliver

STARTING TOMORROW NOVEMBER 10, 11:00AM ON NBC


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Tuesday, November 11, 2025

Hot Hero Sandwich Project Archives: Henry Fonda’s Signed Contract for Hot Hero Sandwich

by G. Jack Urso
 
Henry Fonda's signed contract for Hot Hero Sandwich (credit, Heritage Auctions, ©2004).

Here is a rare item found in a 2004 auction from Heritage Auctions — actor Henry Fonda’s signed contract for his interview with Dr. Tom Cottle on Hot Hero Sandwich in episode 4. This document helps identify specific dates and dollar amounts regarding the celebrity interviews and gives further context for the production of the series.

The contract was signed Friday, July 6, 1979 with a filming date slated for Wednesday, July 11, 1979 to take place in Los Angeles, Calif. Fonda was paid $355.75 plus 10 percent thereof as agent’s commission” (an additional $35.58). In 2025 dollars, that is equivalent to $1,591.56 (plus $159.16 agent’s commission). Fonda was an A-list celebrity, so I’m guessing no one was paid more than he was, but whether this was a standard fee all celebrities were paid is unknown.

Heritage Auctions is also where I discovered cels for auction from the animated short film on Hot Hero Sandwich, “Wild Night with Martha and the Vandellas,” by Al Jarnow, which I previously wrote about. 

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Tuesday, October 21, 2025

Hot Hero Sandwich Tribute Video

by G. Jack Urso
 
Hot Hero Sandwich Tribute Video.

The opening credits, the result of long and intensive work by producer Bruce Hart and film editor Patrick McMahon, creates a narrative of the main cast getting together and then segues into the guests for that week’s episode. For a while, I’ve wanted to create an introductory video with all performers on Hot Hero Sandwich — main cast, supporting cast, Dr. Cottle, and the Hot Hero Band members. While I utilize pieces of the opening credits, with respect to Hart and McMahon, I cut in clips from the series, including some celebrity and musical guests, to highlight the energy and humor of the show and give people a sample of what they missed.

I used Filmora's video editing software for this project. In addition to providing a multi-track audio and video framework for editing projects, its AI voice and music removal tools helped to isolate some bits of audio, like Casey Kasem’s voice introducing the series. I first learned video editing 40 years ago using a Sony RM-330 or BE-800 automatic editing control unit connected to a Sony 3/4 inch U-matic BVU-800/850 or VO-5800 VTR. A basic set-up with two 3/4-in VTRs connected to an editing control unit could cost several thousand dollars. Filmora can do all that plus effects, titles, and AI tools for about $50, putting high-quality video production within everyone's reach.

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Short Take on Akira Yoshimura, Production Designer

by G. Jack Urso
 

One of the unsung heroes of Hot Hero Sandwich is the production designer Akira Yoshimura. Better known as Leo by his colleagues, Yoshimura was responsible for the set design of the show, from the sets for the sketches to the black and neon main stage set (known as the “Disco Set” in production documents), where the musical performances were filmed. By the time Hot Hero Sandwich debuted in 1979, Yoshimura had already been pursuing his trade in the same Studio 8H where Saturday Night Live has been filmed since the show’s debut in 1975.

 
Left, Yoshimura in 1979, tagged as "The Japanese Mick Jagger," by artist
and Hot Hero Sandwich writer Sherry Coben.
Right, Yoshimura in the Hot Hero Sandwich group photo.
Yoshimura rarely gives interviews, and I was hard-pressed to find a single one before an extensive interview he provided The Wall Street Journal, Feb. 25, 2025. According to the report, Yoshimura was born in Chicago to a family of 11 children. He got started in set design at Loyola University Chicago and continued studying design at Yale’s drama school. Afterwards, Yoshimura moved to New York where he ended up doing set design for Broadway productions as well as opera. During his 50-year long career at SNL Yoshimura has missed a total of one episode — a remarkable achievement particularly given the demands of Saturday Night Live.

The pressure for Yoshimura at Hot Hero Sandwich was likely just as intense. Hot Hero only had access to Studio 8H for four weeks and the days on set, as attested by audio engineer Joel Spector, could run as long as 22 hours. There were several recurring sets Yoshimura was responsible for in addition to “the Disco Set.” These include Ted’s Café, the Nightmare High classroom and associated sets, Ym’s and Ur’s spacecraft interior, and various house and apartment interiors. Additionally, there were various one-shot sets that had to be constructed and dressed. Although unconfirmed, Yoshimura likely had the assistance of the same stage crew that was available for SNL, making the short deadlines and quick turnarounds possible.

Leo Yoshimura as Lt. Sulu on Saturday Night Live.

Yoshimura also has had a second career of sorts as a bit player on Saturday Night Live. His most frequent role has been as a laconic Lt. Sulu for various Star Trek sketches, delivering his lines with a deadpan hilarity.

The Hot Hero Sandwich main stage “Disco Set” with its neon against a glossy black set emulating Ted’s Café reflects both the show and a late 1970s design aesthetic. Its minimalistic design keeps the focus on the performers with the neon acting as a sort of framing device, allowing the viewer’s eye to pick out individuals on stage easier than if set against a black background alone.

This reveals Yoshimura’s talent goes beyond set design and construction to include an understanding of artistic sensibilities and how the TV audience needs to be visually engaged to keep their eyes on the screen.

And we did.

Concluding Thoughts

Yoshimura today (IMDb).
According to SNL writer James Downey, quoted in The Wall Street Journal article talking about Yoshimura, “Apart from his genius at design, the main secret to Leo’s success, and especially his longevity, is extreme grumpiness which has long served to frighten the writers and to keep them at bay, allowing him to focus on his craft undisturbed.”

I always seek some words of wisdom from our Hot Heroes for future generations and as Yoshimura observes in The Wall Street Journal article, “If you say no, you shut any discussion down. My feeling is that it’s more productive to say yes. You have to always find a way to say yes. That philosophy is valuable in any business — and essential at SNL.”

As well as in life.


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Sunday, September 7, 2025

Hot Hero Sandwich Theme Song AI Audio Removal Experiments

by G. Jack Urso

Using Filmora’s AI removal tool, I have isolated the instruments and vocals in the Hot Hero Sandwich theme song in two separate tracks. They’re a bit rough. The volume jumps up and down. Some vocals bleed through into the instrumental version, and likewise some instrumental noise creeps into the a cappella version, but both show some possibilities for new versions of the theme.

A Capella version.

Instrumental version. 

                         

Thursday, August 21, 2025

Short Take on Scott Schachter, Audio Engineer

by G. Jack Urso
 

In our ongoing exploration of the top talent NBC employed for Hot Hero Sandwich, we turn our attention to Scott Schachter who shared duties with Joel Spector as audio engineer for the series. They also shared a Daytime Emmy nomination in 1980 for Outstanding Individual Achievement in Children's Programming for Hot Hero Sandwich, episode 4. In fact, 1980 seems to have been a good year for Schachter as he also won an Emmy for Outstanding Individual Achievement — Creative Technical Crafts for Live from Studio 8H: A Tribute to Toscanini.

Spector was the audio engineer for the first two episodes after which Schachter takes over for Spector beginning in episode 3, and they both join forces for episode 10 and the finale episode 11. Schachter, who had a few years on Spector, had a career dating back to the late 1950s and the legendary Steve Allen Plymouth Show, which introduced the world to Allen’s regular cast of zanies such as Don Knotts, Louis Nye, Gene Rayburn, Pat Harrington Jr., and Tom Poston. The Internet Movie Database’s credits listings are woefully short for technical personnel (and sometimes not so great for those in front of the camera either), so we don’t have a complete list of the other shows from the Golden Era of Television Schachter worked on, but, without doubt, the Hot Hero Sandwich sound benefitted from the experienced and steady hand Schachter brought with him.

Scott Schachter, 1977.
According to Joel Spector in his interview with the Hot Hero Sandwich Project, Schachter left broadcasting for a while during the 1960s to work in his family’s millinery business. Millinery encompasses the women’s hat trade, which, along with men’s hat sales, took a big hit in the 1960s as fashions changed dramatically, as noted in the New York Times article, “The '60s Changed Everything in American Style,” Apr. 22, 1990. Indeed, the entire market for women’s hats bottomed out in the 1960s. Except for some high-fashionistas and older women, Baby Boomers weren’t wearing hats like their parents did. Considering this, Schachter must have found his work challenging. Nevertheless, it was a far cry from being the audio engineer for a national network working on some of the most important shows in television history. Yet, Schachter wasn’t quite done with television and by the mid-1970s he returned to NBC and began working on Saturday Night Live beginning with Season 1, Episode 1, in 1975 and for another 186 episodes over the next ten years.

With Hot Hero Sandwich and Saturday Night Live both being taped in Studio 8H, using the same equipment, and sharing a similarity in the presentation of its music performances on stage, Schachter, Spector, and other members of the crew who also worked on SNL, easily adapted to the HHS format and gave the show a polished, professional look and sound other live-action children’s entertainment variety shows could not easily emulate.

Scott Schachter behind the sound board in Hot Hero Sandwich episode 11.
Ironically, I had been listening to Schachter’s handiwork all the way back to that first season of SNL. That Christmas of 1975, my parents bought me and my siblings our own small black and white televisions. One of the first uses my brother and I had for our sets was to retire to our bedroom after watching The Carol Burnett Show with our parents and wait for Saturday Night Live to come on. Many times in the course of my research for the Hot Hero Sandwich Project have I discovered that someone connected to the show I thought I was just learning about for the first time, I actually had been watching or listening to all along. Scott Schachter’s work is a good example of that.

Schachter, 1981.
Being a Saturday Night Live fan, it was to my surprise that Schachter turns up as a minor character in the 2024 biopic Saturday Night, which chronicles the events leading up to the first episode of Saturday Night Live. In it, Schachter, portrayed by actor Jeff Pope, is called “Scotty.” This was the first I ever read of Schachter being referred to as “Scotty,” so I asked Joel Spector about it and he confirms that Schachter preferred Scott. Spector reports that when the credits for Hot Hero were being prepared, Schachter was asked if he wanted to be identified as “Scott” or “Scotty,” and Schachter specified the former.

[Note: One other Hot Hero Sandwich production team member, Bob Pook, graphic designer, also appears as a minor character in Saturday Night.]

Scott Schachter’s New York Times Obituary, Sep. 2, 2000.

According to his obituary in The New York Times, Schachter died after surgery on Aug. 31, 2000, at age 74. Married for 51 years, he spent his retirement traveling the world with his wife and doing The New York Times crossword puzzle — in ink. Hot Hero Sandwich was just one show he worked on for a few weeks out of a long career, but the show’s sound, as proven by the Emmy nominations for Schachter and Spector, is a defining element of the series’ legacy. Schachter brought the same level of quality to Saturday mornings as he did to Saturday nights.


Note: Headshot photos of Scott Schachter courtesy of Joel Spector.

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Saturday, August 16, 2025

Short Take on Stephen Lawrence, Composer

by G. Jack Urso
 
Stephen Lawrence in front of his three Emmys, from his blog.

Stephen Lawrence, along with Bruce Hart, wrote the music and lyrics, respectively, for the Hot Hero Sandwich theme song. That song lived rent-free in my head for decades, quite an accomplishment considering there were no recordings released of the music or of the series itself. The catchy ear-worm with a Hard Rock beat immediately set the tempo and tone of the series, as well as its mission statement — just surviving adolescence makes you a hero and you’re not the only one going through it.

The Hot Hero Band performs the show’s theme song.

Stephen Lawrence collaborated with Bruce Hart on Marlo Thomas’ landmark children’s record album Free To Be . . . You and Me (1972), later produced as a TV special in 1974, before moving on to Hot Hero Sandwich. Beginning in the early 1980s, Lawrence began writing for Sesame Street, contributing over 300 songs and winning three Emmys for his efforts. Hart himself had prior experience with Sesame Street, co-writing the lyrics to the show’s classic theme song, “Can You Tell Me How to Get to Sesame Street.” Lawrence and Hart also worked together on the Hart’s 1979 TV movie, Sooner or Later, composing on the title song which became a hit for its star Rex Smith.

Rex Smith performs “Sooner or Later” backed up by the Hot Hero Band on Hot Hero Sandwich.

Yet, it is the Hot Hero Sandwich theme song that marks his importance here. Hot Hero Band bassist Robert Brissette in his interview with the Hot Hero Sandwich Project discusses how they got the demo tape with Stephen Lawrence pounding out the show’s theme song.

The HHS theme song was given to us on a cassette. It was nothing more than a middle-age guy (not Bruce Hart) at a piano singing the melody and lyrics with a discernible New York accent, at least to my ears. Very bare bones recording by any standard measure, but we knew what to do with it. We went to the rehearsal studio to begin fleshing it out. Mike [Ratti] started the drum figure — ideal for a television theme — then I added the bass line; Mark [Cunnigham] and Richie [Annunziato] came in with the guitar parts. We added the vocal harmonies and Felix [Pappalardi] brought it all to life when we recorded it.

Stephen Lawrence, 1975
As noted in his New York Times obituary, Jan. 8, 2022, Lawrence, in an essay on his now-defunct blog, wrote, “One of the most effective devices, and for children one of the most important, is repetition. Did you write a first line you like? Why not repeat it?” We can see this this principle utilized to great effect in the Hot Hero Sandwich theme. In many other articles, I have noted how the song stuck in my head for decades — a remarkable achievement given that there were no recordings released in any format, including LP, cassette, 8-Track, VHS, CD, or DVD. This is a common sentiment among the show’s fans and, frankly, the memory of that theme song helped nurture the memory of the series for  decades even with the absence of any media to support it.


While better known for music aimed at children, Lawrence and Hart also co-wrote the theme song for the 1973 film Bang the Drum Slowly starring Robert De Niro. Other songs they collaborated on include “One Way Ticket” (recorded by Mama Cass and Helen Reddy) and “Who Are You Now” (recorded by Olivia Newton-John), in addition to the aforementioned song, “Sooner or Later,” for the TV movie of the same name.

Stephen Lawrence died on Dec. 30, 2021 at 82, just 16 days after series writer David Axlerod passed away on Dec. 13, 2021. The Hot Hero Sandwich Project began just a year later. Their passing leaves a gap in our knowledge of the series that cannot be replaced.


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