Sunday, September 7, 2025

Welcome to the Show!


Welcome to The Hot Hero Sandwich Project, the online home of a research project documenting the 1979-1980 Emmy Award-winning NBC Saturday morning children’s educational entertainment television series, Hot Hero Sandwich.
 
Use the tabs on the left to navigate this extensive archive of articles, interviews, and video, or jump right into some of our most popular posts on right. If you're new, start with the Introduction and learn about the series in A Second Serving! and the FAQ tabs on left. The latest updates are noted in the Updates tab on the left and the Project Posts list on the right.

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This is an active, ongoing project, so please visit often for the latest updates!

COMING UP!

An article on Hot Hero Sandwich I wrote for RetroFan magazine #43 is slated for the Jan. 2026 issue and scheduled for sale Feb. 11, 2026. We made the cover!


— G. Jack Urso, Editor, The Hot Hero Sandwich Project


                          

                                          

Hot Hero Sandwich Theme Song AI Audio Removal Experiments

by G. Jack Urso

Using Filmora’s AI removal tool, I have isolated the instruments and vocals in the Hot Hero Sandwich theme song in two separate tracks. They’re a bit rough. The volume jumps up and down. Some vocals bleed through into the instrumental version, and likewise some instrumental noise creeps into the a cappella version, but both show some possibilities for new versions of the theme.

A Capella version.

Instrumental version. 

                         

Thursday, August 21, 2025

Short Take on Scott Schachter, Audio Engineer

by G. Jack Urso
 

In our ongoing exploration of the top talent NBC employed for Hot Hero Sandwich, we turn our attention to Scott Schachter who shared duties with Joel Spector as audio engineer for the series. They also shared a Daytime Emmy nomination in 1980 for Outstanding Individual Achievement in Children's Programming for Hot Hero Sandwich, episode 4. In fact, 1980 seems to have been a good year for Schachter as he also won an Emmy for Outstanding Individual Achievement — Creative Technical Crafts for Live from Studio 8H: A Tribute to Toscanini.

Spector was the audio engineer for the first two episodes after which Schachter takes over for Spector beginning in episode 3, and they both join forces for episode 10 and the finale episode 11. Schachter, who had a few years on Spector, had a career dating back to the late 1950s and the legendary Steve Allen Plymouth Show, which introduced the world to Allen’s regular cast of zanies such as Don Knotts, Louis Nye, Gene Rayburn, Pat Harrington Jr., and Tom Poston. The Internet Movie Database’s credits listings are woefully short for technical personnel (and sometimes not so great for those in front of the camera either), so we don’t have a complete list of the other shows from the Golden Era of Television Schachter worked on, but, without doubt, the Hot Hero Sandwich sound benefitted from the experienced and steady hand Schachter brought with him.

Scott Schachter, 1977.
According to Joel Spector in his interview with the Hot Hero Sandwich Project, Schachter left broadcasting for a while during the 1960s to work in his family’s millinery business. Millinery encompasses the women’s hat trade, which, along with men’s hat sales, took a big hit in the 1960s as fashions changed dramatically, as noted in the New York Times article, “The '60s Changed Everything in American Style,” Apr. 22, 1990. Indeed, the entire market for women’s hats bottomed out in the 1960s. Except for some high-fashionistas and older women, Baby Boomers weren’t wearing hats like their parents did. Considering this, Schachter must have found his work challenging. Nevertheless, it was a far cry from being the audio engineer for a national network working on some of the most important shows in television history. Yet, Schachter wasn’t quite done with television and by the mid-1970s he returned to NBC and began working on Saturday Night Live beginning with Season 1, Episode 1, in 1975 and for another 186 episodes over the next ten years.

With Hot Hero Sandwich and Saturday Night Live both being taped in Studio 8H, using the same equipment, and sharing a similarity in the presentation of its music performances on stage, Schachter, Spector, and other members of the crew who also worked on SNL, easily adapted to the HHS format and gave the show a polished, professional look and sound other live-action children’s entertainment variety shows could not easily emulate.

Scott Schachter behind the sound board in Hot Hero Sandwich episode 11.
Ironically, I had been listening to Schachter’s handiwork all the way back to that first season of SNL. That Christmas of 1975, my parents bought me and my siblings our own small black and white televisions. One of the first uses my brother and I had for our sets was to retire to our bedroom after watching The Carol Burnett Show with our parents and wait for Saturday Night Live to come on. Many times in the course of my research for the Hot Hero Sandwich Project have I discovered that someone connected to the show I thought I was just learning about for the first time, I actually had been watching or listening to all along. Scott Schachter’s work is a good example of that.

Schachter, 1981.
Being a Saturday Night Live fan, it was to my surprise that Schachter turns up as a minor character in the 2024 biopic Saturday Night, which chronicles the events leading up to the first episode of Saturday Night Live. In it, Schachter, portrayed by actor Jeff Pope, is called “Scotty.” This was the first I ever read of Schachter being referred to as “Scotty,” so I asked Joel Spector about it and he confirms that Schachter preferred Scott. Spector reports that when the credits for Hot Hero were being prepared, Schachter was asked if he wanted to be identified as “Scott” or “Scotty,” and Schachter specified the former.

[Note: One other Hot Hero Sandwich production team member, Bob Pook, graphic designer, also appears as a minor character in Saturday Night.]

Scott Schachter’s New York Times Obituary, Sep. 2, 2000.

According to his obituary in The New York Times, Schachter died after surgery on Aug. 31, 2000, at age 74. Married for 51 years, he spent his retirement traveling the world with his wife and doing The New York Times crossword puzzle — in ink. Hot Hero Sandwich was just one show he worked on for a few weeks out of a long career, but the show’s sound, as proven by the Emmy nominations for Schachter and Spector, is a defining element of the series’ legacy. Schachter brought the same level of quality to Saturday mornings as he did to Saturday nights.


Note: Headshot photos of Scott Schachter courtesy of Joel Spector.

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Saturday, August 16, 2025

Short Take on Stephen Lawrence, Composer

by G. Jack Urso
 
Stephen Lawrence in front of his three Emmys, from his blog.

Stephen Lawrence, along with Bruce Hart, wrote the music and lyrics, respectively, for the Hot Hero Sandwich theme song. That song lived rent-free in my head for decades, quite an accomplishment considering there were no recordings released of the music or of the series itself. The catchy ear-worm with a Hard Rock beat immediately set the tempo and tone of the series, as well as its mission statement — just surviving adolescence makes you a hero and you’re not the only one going through it.

The Hot Hero Band performs the show’s theme song.

Stephen Lawrence collaborated with Bruce Hart on Marlo Thomas’ landmark children’s record album Free To Be . . . You and Me (1972), later produced as a TV special in 1974, before moving on to Hot Hero Sandwich. Beginning in the early 1980s, Lawrence began writing for Sesame Street, contributing over 300 songs and winning three Emmys for his efforts. Hart himself had prior experience with Sesame Street, co-writing the lyrics to the show’s classic theme song, “Can You Tell Me How to Get to Sesame Street.” Lawrence and Hart also worked together on the Hart’s 1979 TV movie, Sooner or Later, composing on the title song which became a hit for its star Rex Smith.

Rex Smith performs “Sooner or Later” backed up by the Hot Hero Band on Hot Hero Sandwich.

Yet, it is the Hot Hero Sandwich theme song that marks his importance here. Hot Hero Band bassist Robert Brissette in his interview with the Hot Hero Sandwich Project discusses how they got the demo tape with Stephen Lawrence pounding out the show’s theme song.

The HHS theme song was given to us on a cassette. It was nothing more than a middle-age guy (not Bruce Hart) at a piano singing the melody and lyrics with a discernible New York accent, at least to my ears. Very bare bones recording by any standard measure, but we knew what to do with it. We went to the rehearsal studio to begin fleshing it out. Mike [Ratti] started the drum figure — ideal for a television theme — then I added the bass line; Mark [Cunnigham] and Richie [Annunziato] came in with the guitar parts. We added the vocal harmonies and Felix [Pappalardi] brought it all to life when we recorded it.

Stephen Lawrence, 1975
As noted in his New York Times obituary, Jan. 8, 2022, Lawrence, in an essay on his now-defunct blog, wrote, “One of the most effective devices, and for children one of the most important, is repetition. Did you write a first line you like? Why not repeat it?” We can see this this principle utilized to great effect in the Hot Hero Sandwich theme. In many other articles, I have noted how the song stuck in my head for decades — a remarkable achievement given that there were no recordings released in any format, including LP, cassette, 8-Track, VHS, CD, or DVD. This is a common sentiment among the show’s fans and, frankly, the memory of that theme song helped nurture the memory of the series for  decades even with the absence of any media to support it.


While better known for music aimed at children, Lawrence and Hart also co-wrote the theme song for the 1973 film Bang the Drum Slowly starring Robert De Niro. Other songs they collaborated on include “One Way Ticket” (recorded by Mama Cass and Helen Reddy) and “Who Are You Now” (recorded by Olivia Newton-John), in addition to the aforementioned song, “Sooner or Later,” for the TV movie of the same name.

Stephen Lawrence died on Dec. 30, 2021 at 82, just 16 days after series writer David Axlerod passed away on Dec. 13, 2021. The Hot Hero Sandwich Project began just a year later. Their passing leaves a gap in our knowledge of the series that cannot be replaced.


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Wednesday, August 6, 2025

Eddie Palmieri, pioneering Latin jazz musician and Grammy winner, dies at 88

by G. Jack Urso

Left - Right: Charlie Palmieri, Felix Pappalardi, and Eddie Palmieri 
on Hot Hero Sandwich, episode 8.


Eddie Palmieri, along with his brother Charlie, performed an absolutely HOT Latin jazz set during episode 8 of Hot Hero Sandwich. Growing up, I mostly listened to Rock, so this set blew me away with the brothers’ energy and their virtuoso performances. It helped start me on the road to a wider appreciation of music — especially Jazz.

Interestingly, Hot Hero Band drummer Mike Ratti reports laying down some tracks with the Palmieri brothers, produced by Felix Pappalardi, just prior to their Hot Hero performance. Unfortunately, those tracks never made it on air and what became of them remains unknown. Another example of some of the lost treasures we’ll never get to experience. Below is their performance, along with Hot Hero Music Director Felix Pappalardi, on Hot Hero Sandwich for you to judge for yourselves!

The Palmieri brothers, Charlie and Eddie, on Hot Hero Sandwich, episode 8.
 
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Friday, August 1, 2025

Learn to Play the Hot Hero Sandwich Theme Song on Chordify!

by G. Jack Urso

 
Screen shot from Chordify.

Chordify is a music platform that runs software which can automatically identify a song’s chords and synchronize them with the music, and video if available, so musicians can learn their favorite songs. Chord progressions with finger positions are available for guitar, mandolin, piano, and ukulele. The Hot Hero Sandwich theme song has received that treatment at the following link:

Hot Hero Sandwich Theme Song Chords - Chordify

Chord progression for the Hot Hero Sandwich theme song.


Even if you’re not a musician, you’ll find this an informative and entertaining program and gain a better appreciation for the writers Bruce Hart and Stephen Lawrence and, of course, the Hot Hero Band!

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Wednesday, July 16, 2025

Short Take on David Axlerod, Writer

by G. Jack Urso
 

David Axelrod (NYT).
David Axlerod (1938-2021), writer for Hot Hero Sandwich, had a long resume before being hired by Bruce and Carole Hart.  It kicks off with Captain Kangaroo in 1968, moves forward with assignments for such classic comedians as Alan King, Dick Cavett, Robert Klein, The Dean Martin Show and Celebrity Roasts, two Mary Tyler Moore variety show TV projects, George Burns Comedy Week, and the influential 1973 National Lampoon mockumentary stage show Lemmings, which helped launch the careers of several future Saturday Night Live actors, among many others. 

Axlerod was also a talented lyricist and collaborated with frequent songwriting partner Sam Pottle to write dozens of songs for Sesame Street, Sesame Street Live, and various other albums (see his extensivediscography at Discogs). Needless to say, whether adult or children’s comedy and music, David Axelrod had the chops.

According to fellow series writer Sherry Coben in an interview with the Hot Hero Sandwich Project, David Axlerod and Bruce Hart first met in college and also worked on Sesame Street, so there must have been some excellent synergy between the two on the projects they worked on. Tragically, Axlerod passed away Dec. 13, 2021 after he fell ill while on vacation in Aruba where he contracted flesh-eating bacteria and passed away, according to Coben.

Axlerod's loss also takes with him some of the unwritten lore of Hot Hero Sandwich and more insight into Bruce and Carole Hart's vision as well. Having passed just about a year and a half before the Hot Hero Sandwich Project started, one can only wonder what secrets about the show he knew that we'll never know.

David Axlerod’s passing was unexpected and tragic, yet the measure of our lives is in the legacy we leave. From writing for Captain Kangaroo and Sesame Street to Lemmings and Hot Hero Sandwich to a parade of the 20th century’s most noted comedians, Axlerod’s work virtually defined the laugh track for America and helped a generation of kids, and adults, grow up with a little laughter and song. 


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Friday, July 11, 2025

Hot Hero Sandwich Project Archives: Generative AI Tests

by G. Jack Urso


As part of a Hot Hero Sandwich-related project I'm working on, I did a test with two photographs using the generative AI tool with the video editing suite Filmora.

I'm still learning to use it, and not sure if I will include it with the video project I'm working on. This particular effect works best with just a couple people as in large group photos we can see people disappear and/or appear into or out of nowhere. Also, it's a little unsettling, particularly with the group photo and people who are no longer with us.

To play, click the play button on the the window to open the file and and then again to play it.


35-mm promotional slide.

Group photo of cast, crew, and production personnel taken during the filming of episode 10. 


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Sunday, June 29, 2025

Hot Hero Sandwich Project Archives: Group Photo

by G. Jack Urso
 
Hot Hero Sandwich cast, crew, and production staff, 1979.

When the Hot Hero Sandwich Project began, one of the first pictures series writer Sherry Coben sent me was the group photo (see Hot Hero Sandwich — A Second Serving! Part II: Production Notes and Broadcast History). The presence of rocker Rex Smith indicates is was taken during the filming of Episode10. The photographer was likely Al Levine, NBC Staff Photographer, who is seen in the finale of the Episode 11. The photo includes cast, production staff, Hot Hero Band members, stage crew, and writers. There are 63 people in the photo, but except for Bruce and Carole Hart, and about a half dozen others, most of the individuals in the photo were unknown. Working with former staff members of the show, most of the people in the photo have now been identified in a copy of the photo provided below.

Al Levine, NBC Staff Photographer, screen shot from the finale of Hot Hero Sandwich, Episode 11.

As a historian, this unknown factor bothered me. My brief time in broadcasting as a technician when as a young man, as short as it was, gave me insight into the production process. What we see on air is the result of a collaborative process. Hot Hero Sandwich only had four weeks to produce all the studio segments for the eleven shows produced. Usually, about six production days might be devoted to an hour-long show. To fit so much work into such a short period of time is an effort requiring top professionals who were as experienced individually as they were working with each other. Indeed, many of the stage crew had before and after Hot Hero Sandwich worked together for NBC on various programs. Bruce and Carole Hart gathering everyone together for a group photo recognizes that effort. Here, we give names to the faces. 

With the assistance of several Hot Hero Sandwich alumni, including audio engineer Joel Spector, production staffer Claudia Rocco, writer Marianne Meyer, Hot Hero Band drummer Mike Ratti, film editor Pat McMahon, and actor L. Michael Craig, we now know the names of 52 of the 63 people in the photo.

In researching the crew’s work before and after the Hot Hero Sandwich, I found that for some of them, their experience goes back to the early days of TV, such as Audio Engineer Scott Schactler, at number 24, who worked on The Steve Allen Plymouth Show in the late 1950s. Others, went on to prestigious careers of their own, such as Production Assistant Liz Plonka, at number 18, became a noted director of comedy programs such as The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, and projects with Norm McDonald, David Spade, and Bill Nye, among many others. At number 20 we have Associate Producer Kimber Rickabaugh (credited on the show as Kimber Rickabaugh Criswell), who went on to become a noted producer of comedy specials and TV shows starring George Carlin, Dave Chappelle, Whoopi Goldberg, Kathy Griffin, Dennis Miller, and Robert Townsend (who auditioned for a spot on the main cast that went to Jarett Smithwrick), among so many more.

Additionally, Graphic Artist David Kaestle, one of the influential early staffers for National Lampoon, turns up at number 33. Kaestle was hired as part of Pelligrini and Kaestle to design fonts, logos, and related design elements for show. According to conversations with Production Administrator Ken Aymong and Film Editor Patrick McMahon, Kaestle often stopped by to lend his personal touch to a last-minute need. At number 37 we have Set Designer Leo (Akira) Yoshimura, the long-time Production Designer for Saturday Night Live (Yoshimura designed the black and neon main stage set, among many other set pieces).

Yet, there was a surprise in the photo that went unnoticed until Audio Engineer Joel Spector and Hot Hero Band Drummer Mike Ratti pointed it out to me. Joel Spector identified Hot Hero Music Director Felix Papplardi (Creem producer and bassist for Mountain), smiling and minus his trademark Fu Manchu mustache in the photo at number 15. Also, as noted by Ratti, at number 19 is his wife Gail Collins. Pappalardi's and Collin's ill-fated relationship, which resulted in the former's death and the latter's imprisonment, is a tragic chapter in Rock history, and here they are in the Hot Hero Sandwich group photo. It is a remarkable find.

The original photo is included at the top of the article. A copy of the photo below with number boxes corresponds to the list below. You will notice several numbers (25, 41, 45, and 51) are underlined. In a crowded area, this indicates that the individuals they are identifying are directly below the number box. Where available, links to the associated Internet Movie Database (IMDb) profile or to their associated interview with the Hot Hero Sandwich Project have been included.

If anyone knows the names of the remaining unidentified crew members, please reach out me via the Media Inquiries information (see link for more information) or leave a comment below. 

Hot Hero Sandwich cast, crew, and production staff, 1979.


Group Photo Names:

1. Christine Roelfs, Casting Director

2. Tom Trbovich, Director

3. Carole Pfeffer (also credited as Carol Pfeffer on IMDb), Casting Director

4. Howard Malley, Producer

5. Phil Hymes, Lighting Director

6. Bruce Hart, Executive Producer

7. Carole Hart, Consulting Producer

8. Rex Smith, Musical Guest, Episode 10

9. Jarett Smithwrick, Actor

10. Nan-Lynn Nelson, Actor

11. Denny Dillon, Actor

12. James McKearnan (also credited in the IMDb as James McKearin and James McKearnin), Head Carpenter

13. Avonelle Pole, Production Staff

14. Paul Gworka, Outside Prop Man

15. Felix Pappalardi, Music Director 

16. Steve Rosen, Associate Director

17. Susan Kerber, Production Assistant

18. Liz Plonka, Production Assistant

19. Gail Collins (wife of Felix Pappalardi, #12)

20. Kimber Rickabaugh Criswell, Associate Producer (credited on the IMDb as Kimber Rickabaugh)

21. Richie Annunziato, Guitarist, Hot Hero Band

22. Claudia Rocco, Production Staff

23. Mike Ratti, Drummer, Hot Hero Band

24. Scott Schactler, Audio Engineer

25. Jack Keegan, Audio Assistant

26. Walt Werner, Video Engineer

27. Matt McCoy, Actor

28. Marianne Meyer, Writer

29. Barbara Kelly, Make-Up Artist

30. Sherry Coben, Writer

31. Eli Lulove, Videotape Engineer

32. Richard Camp, Writer

33. David Kaestle, Graphic Designer

34. Willie Day, Prop Master

35. Bill Kelley, Technical Director

36. Bailey Stortz, Crane Operator

37. Leo (Akira) Yoshimura, Set Designer

38. Vincent Kane, Foldback Engineer

39. Vincent DiPietro, Camera Operator

40. Charlie Williams, Carpenter

41. Carl Martin, Audio Assistant

42. Henry Boyarsky, Properties

43. Tom Dezendorf, Camera Operator

44. Robert (Bob) Van Ry, Stage Manager

45. Tom Barrett, Videotape Engineer

46. Michael Longfield (L. Michael Craig), Actor

47. Joel  Spector, Audio Engineer

48. John Pinto, Camera Operator

49. Al Gallo, Scenic Artist

50. Robert Newman, Senior Production Administrator

51. Dave Gould, Audio Engineer

52. Gene Martin, Camera Operator

 
                         

Thursday, June 5, 2025

Hot Hero Sandwich Project Archives: New York Times Article, Sep. 2, 1979

by G. Jack Urso

Screenshot of original New York Times Article, Sep. 2, 1979. A more legible version (minus the cast picture) is provided below.
 
The New York Times article, “For Children, a Few Nuggets Amid the Cartoons,” Sept. 2, 1979, is deep dive into the then-current state of Saturday morning cartoons. Clocking in at a feature-length 2,073 words, the New York Times pulls in experts to analyze the industry and the target audience. Among the shows discussed for the Fall 1979 season is Hot Hero Sandwich. The transcription of the article is provided below along with images of the article.

Hot Hero Sandwich is only discussed in a couple paragraphs in this long article, but one thing of note is that the New York Times, printed Sep. 2, 1979, reports the series will debut on Oct. 20, 1979. The official series press release, however, dated Oct. 22, 1979, reports the start date was pushed forward to Nov. 10. This suggests that the start date was moved up after Sep. 2.

The Times article also reports the debut of Dr. Lee Salk’s Feelings (echoing the then-popular, and much-parodied, song of the same name), a 13‐part PBS series where Dr. Salk talks with children 7-14 about issues affecting kids, like divorce, drugs, and sexuality. Dr. Salk (brother of Dr. Jonas Salk who developed the polio vaccine) was a consultant for Bruce and Carole Hart and conducted the interviews for the animated children’s dreams segments on Hot Hero Sandwich. Also noted is the debut of 3-2-1 Contact, which also featured Hot Hero’s very own Nan-Lynn Nelson, in The Bloodhound Gang segments (which she discusses in her interview with the Hot Hero Sandwich Project).

Also of note, for the mighty New York Times, there are certainly a number of spelling errors. I note ten spelling errors (identified by [sic]), plus number of other errors in the spacing of cartoon character names which should have been easily verified by referring to network press releases or, dare I say, the TV Guide. To be fair, I would be surprised if the computer terminals used in the Times newsroom in 1979 had any spell-checking.

Definitely more of an article for those with an interest in TV history, and Saturday morning cartoons in particular, “For Children, a Few Nuggets Amid the Cartoons,” gives a comprehensive look at the Saturday morning television landscape in 1979 and provides more context to Hot Hero Sandwich.

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For Children, a Few Nuggets Amid the Cartoons
By Alexis Greene
New York Times, Sept. 2, 1979, pages 25 & 32.

New York Times Article, “For Children, a Few Nuggets Amid the Cartoons,” Sep. 2, 1979, page 25.

Amid all the ballyhoo over the new prime‐time schedules, little attention has been paid to the television fare being offered in one of the more controversial, not to mention lucrative, time periods for the commercial networks: Saturday morning. This is the time period that accounts for the highest concentration of programming aimed at children under 12. Indeed, of the 32 million American children from 2 to 11 who live with television sets, at some point during any Saturday morning at least 25 million of them are tuned to the three commercial networks. And, despite claims about the low advertising revenues derived from Saturday morning programming (the networks refuse to disclose precise figures), last year toy, cereal and candy manufacturers — the biggest buyers of advertising minutes surrounding programs aimed at children — spent $94 million at the networks for weekend daytime commercials. Yet, the content and style of the programming offered on Saturday mornings by the commercial networks continues to be the object of often stinging criticism from parents, educators, child psychologists and government officials.

“Saturday morning is the most depressing part of the whole broadcast scheme,” says Peggy Charren, president of Action for Children's Television. “The 2‐to‐11 age span is the most diverse period in human development, and that's why diversity is so important. But what the networks are doing for children on Saturday morning is an indication that we as a nation just don't care about our kids, that kids are all alike. ABC does a nice short‐story special — at the end of the schedule [“ABC Weekend Specials,” at noon]. CBS's ‘30 Minutes' is a nice show, but why are they burying it at 1:30 in the afternoon? The networks don't do anything except what worked last year or last week.”

A look at the forthcoming season's entries from the three networks would seem to justify Mrs. Charren's observations. Officially, the new Saturday morning schedules will go into effect next weekend (due to a strike by film animators, some of the new cartoons will not appear until later in the month) and, with the exception of NBC's “Hot Hero Sandwich,” little other than animated cartoons will be offered.

The NBC show, which will make its debut at noon on Saturday, Oct. 20, is a weekly, hour‐long exploration of adolescence. Created and produced by Carole and Bruce Hart, “Hot Hero Sandwich” (the title derives from the show's setting, the Hot Hero Sandwich Cafe, a combination luncheonette and disco) focuses on the pleasures as well as the frustrations of growing up. Each week, skits will dramatize such adolescent stumbling blocks as first dates and coping with school; “heroes” such as television actor Erik Estrada and the Rev. Jesse Jackson will discuss their own adolescent experiences with clinical psychologist Dr. Thomas J. Cottle.

For the most part, however, the Saturday‐morning schedules of the commercial networks for the forthcoming season evidence scant diversity and reflect little that could be considered fresh, innovative or experimental. For instance, CBS will be offering an animated hour of “The New Adventures of Mighty Mouse and Heckle and Jeckle” at 8 A.M.; ABC has scheduled a two hour animated‐cartoon package (9 to 11 A.M.) under the umbrella title of “Plasticman Comedy/ Adventure Show,” which features, in addition to the elasticized superhero of the title, such characters as Mightyman, Yukk, Fangface and Fangpuss. A half‐hour of this ABC cartoon package will include something called “Rickety Rocket,” in which four black teen‐agers run an amateur detective agency and ride a talking rocket ship. Every Saturday morning through Oct. 13, NBC has scheduled a block of five hours of animated cartoons, three‐and‐a‐half hours of which have been produced by a single supplier, Hanna‐Barbera. [sic]

“Cartoons are what we have found to work in terms of drawing an audience,” says Mary Alice (Mickey) Dwyer, vice president of children's programs at NBC. “Experience has shown us quite honestly that it is the exceptional live‐action show that works on Saturday morning. And for all of the good that we try to do, if we cannot draw an audience to our programs, then it doesn't matter. And that Saturday‐morning arena is an exceptionally competitive arena.”

Faith Frenz Heckman, CBS vice president of children's programs, maintains that a program such as “30 Minutes” would not get an audience if shown earlier on Saturdays. “It's not fair to put a show like that in competition with cartoons on other networks,” she said. “It wouldn't be viewed.”

Squire D. Rushnell, vice presfdent [sic] of children's programming at ABC, says. that “even if we took our ‘Afterschool Specials' and put then on at 9 on Saturday morning — if the kids have a choice between the ‘Afterschool Specials' and ‘Bugs Bunny,’ they're going to choose ‘Bugs Bunny.'”

There is, nonetheless, concern among some child psychologists as to what really attracts children to the cartoons they apparently watch so regularly on Saturday mornings, and there is worry that this particular style of animation may be detrimental to young minds. Dr. Aletha Huston‐Stein and her husband Dr. John C. Wright, who work at the Center for Research on the Influence of Television on Children at the University of Kansas, have found that the production techniques utilized in these cartoons may have adverse effects on youngsters.

“The Saturday‐morning programs, particularly cartoons, use a lot of what we call ‘hype,’ ” said Dr. Huston‐Stein in a recent telephone interview. “Just a tremendous amount of sensory bombardment: rapid changes of scene, visual special effects and, most important, loud music, beeps, sound effects.

“We showed kids cartoons that had a lot of those hyped‐up features but no acts of physical aggressison [sic]. We found that pre‐school children become overactive and negatively aggressive even after seeing cartoons that are just hyped up and full of noise.”

New York Times Article, “For Children, a Few Nuggets Amid the Cartoons,” Sep. 2, 1979, page 32.

Dr. Robert Abramovitz, associate professor of pediatrics and psychiatry at the Yale Child Study Center, believes that the kind of cartoons constantly shown on Saturday mornings inhibit a child's learning ability. “When I look at these programs,” says Dr. Abramovitz, “what I see is an audio‐visual element that's designed strictly to keep grabbing the attention of a child's perceptual apparatus, but none of that is designed to help a kid process information.

“It is well known that children up to 7 and 8 have short attention spans, but to then design programs around that fact is a crucial error. If you present programming that takes into account how slowly children process information.

NBC is trying something new with “Hot Hero Sandwich” (right) featuring skits about teenage problems. More typical children's fare is ABC's “Plasticman” cartoons. You can get them to concentrate for long periods of time. But what we're talking about with the Saturday‐morning line‐up is programming that's not age‐specific. The broadcaster is simply trying to gather the largest possible market in front of the set.”

Network executives contend that diversity can be found among the Saturday‐morning cartoons themselves. “If you l,” insists NBC's Mary Alice Dwyer, “there's not a similarity in styles. And we have looked for diversity in types of concepts: comedy, adventure, mytery.” [sic]

When Mr. Rushnell of ABC was queried about the lack of diversity on Saturday mornings, he replied that “the shows are different. They may not appear unique, even in the descriptions of them, but ‘Mightyman and Yukk’ is a unique show. ‘Plasticman’ is unique.”

Of course, the commercial networks' Saturday‐morning cartoon ghetto does have an alternative: public television. Beginning in October, WNET / Channel 13 will be offering, as is its practice, Saturday‐morning repeats of its daily children's fare: “Sesame Street”(all new episodes will be forthcoming only after Nov. 26), “Mister Rogers,” “Once Upon a Classic” and “Zoom !”

As far as the programming schedules during the week go, the picture for young viewers this fall looks a bit more varied and imaginative: CBS will be introducing three new dramatic series designed for youngsters, and the Public Broadcasting Service will be introducing two new series, one featuring discussions of personal problems and the other focusing on science.

“The CBS Library,” a new series of one‐hour dramatic productions designed for children 12 and younger, will .make its debut Sunday, Oct. 21, at 5 P.M., with “Once Upon a Midnight Dreary.” Starring Vincent Price, this suspense tale has been adapted from segments of children's stories and books: Washington Irving's “The Legend of Sleepy Hollow,” Richard Peck's “The Ghost Belongs to Me” and John Bellair's “The House With a Clock in Its Walls.” Subsequent productions will follow a similar format.

The “CBS Afternoon Playhouse,” tentatively slated to make its debut in November, will offer three hour‐long original dramas during the course of the year and one mini‐series consisting of five half‐hours (no titles were available as of this writing). The “pilot” for this series was the five‐part “Joey and Redhawk” telecast last December.

The third new weekday entry at CBS, a half‐hour series entitled “The Kids on the Block,” will use life‐sized puppets to dramatize the difficulties encountered by handicapped children. The first offering of this series is scheduled for late November.

The Public Broadcasting Service will be offering “Feelings,” a new 13‐part series of half‐hour programs with Dr. Lee Salk as host; it will have its local premiere on WNET/ Channel 13 on Oct. 6. Created for children ages eight through 14, the program will feature the noted child psychologist discussing with youngsters of all ages their attitudes and concerns toward such topics as sex, parents and why their offspring get into trouble.

Another new weekday public‐television presentation for children, this one for youngsters between eight and 12, will be a half‐hour introduction‐to‐science series entitled “3‐2‐1‐Contact”; it will make its debut in mid‐January.

Youngsters watching television on Saturday and Sunday mornings will continue to be exposed to a liberal sprinkling of brief messages about health, education and news. CBS is bringing back its “In the News” spots for their ninth year; these two‐and‐a‐half‐minute “drop‐ins” will be interspersed between the regular weekend fare. Every Saturday morning, three editions of “Ask NBC News,” one minute news‐analysis spots wherein children ask questions about current events and NBC reporters answer, will be interspersed with three segments of “Time‐Out,” 75‐second messages offering advice about physical fitness.

On ABC, the award‐winning “Schoolhouse Rock” series of three‐minute, animated, informational messages set to a comtemporary [sic] musical beat will return three times on Saturdays and once on Sundays. During the weekends, the same network will be offering “Dear Alex & Annie,” a five‐minute “advice column of the air” on personal problems. ABC's “Plasticman” series will be relieved by 30‐second consumer tips of particular interest to youngsters on such topics as the importance of reading labels and the necessity for critically viewing advertisements.

As to specials and returning series, entries this year will include NBC's “Special Treat,” hour‐long dramatizations of short stories (one Tuesday a month, at 4 P.M., starting in October). At 8 A.M. on Monday, Sept. 10, on CBS “Captain Kangaroo” will start his 25th year on television. Also on CBS, “The Festival of Lively Arts for Young People” will be returning for its seventh season; details of the first presentation were unavailable at press time.

ABC's dramatic series “Afterschool Specials” will begin its eighth season Sept. 26. These hour‐long plays are broadcast twice‐monthly on Wednesdays at 4:30 P.M. And beginning this fall, ABC's “Weekend Specials” for the first time will be telecast throughout the year. The first of a dozen new offerings in this half‐hour series is scheduled to be shown at noon Saturday, Sept. 15. “Kids Are People Too,” the 90minute variety/ talk‐show, will be returning to ABC for its second season next Sunday at 10 A.M.

Inasmuch as the networks seem content with the status quo of their Saturday‐morning programming, government pressure may be required to alter the content and style of what is offered during that time period. Appropriately enough, the Children's Television Task Force of the Federal Communications Commission for the past year has been investigating the degree of compliance with the suggestions made in the F.C.C.'s 1974 “Report and Policy Statement on Children's Television Programs.” That report had pressed for more programs for children on weekdays and called for increased diversity in the whole week's spectrum of children's programming. The Task Force will present its new policy options to the F.C.C. during the week of Sept. 17. Certainly, on the evidence of this year's schedule, the diversity called for in that 1974 report has yet to be seen on Saturday mornings.

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